How much bird seed is too much bird seed?Originally Posted by TVC_Colwal
How much bird seed is too much bird seed?
I think it is dangerous to assume if you've done nothing wrong then it does not harm you. Prisons around the world have 'prisoners of concious'. If your view is slightly off the norm they will be able to claim something. You can easily be innocent but considered guilty.
I had a previous job which meant I not only signed the official secrets act but also gave permission for them to perform security checks on me to the extent that not only my emails and phone calls could be checked but also those of the people I was in contact with. There was no time limit on my permission slip so this law makes no difference to me, however I very much doubt they are wasting there time.
I'm sorry this is England, not North Korea or China or something. Noone would be bothered to arrest you. Also they'd completely miss budget/calculate what they need to do this. It would take years to plan, years to get legalised and then because it took so long to plan, the amount of emails and websites will have sky rocketed and the system wouldn't be able to cope. Politicians are slow, the internet and technology are not. And the next time theres a general election there'll be at least one party against it, which you could just vote for.
It will take ages to set up such a system.
It will likely be cancelled due to money or change of government.
Should it actually make it, it will be insufficient and then break.
And even then should be sufficient nobody will do anything about you spending to long watching porn.
China and North Korea are more upfront about their methods but if you look how the American government tried to shut down wiki-leaks and how new legislation is being pushed through to give them the power to close any website deaned unfit. Politics might appear slow but if something is needed to be done in a hurry like going to war it only takes one phone call.
The annoying thing is, that if your ISP (or even your friendly VPN provider) received a "request" (aka an interception warrant) under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act for them to disclose details of someone's use of a server, they wouldn't be allowed to tell anyone that it had even happened.
Yes, this is the UK, yes, this is the 21st century, and yes, they (the police, the local authorities, tax offices, etc, etc) all do have and all do use these powers. In some cases they have been used to check up on people claiming benefits, in others, to check to see if a parent is lying to get their kids into a better school. If you use the internet, your life is an open book.
~Dan
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Petition for you to sign if you are against this: http://bit.ly/stopthesnooping
Shouldn't the petition read:
'Dear David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Theresa May, here is a list of emails of people worth keeping an eye on'
tecoben, you'd agree with Eric Schmidt (Google CEO): Only miscreants worry about net privacy?
Signed Petition, Tweeted Petition, Shared on Facebook. Though nothing will come of it, dont think it will get past the house as of PMQ's yesterday did not seem they where going to follow up on this or that their were much support. Civil Liberties
Adam H
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I believe in the lost in a crowd set up. If they are going to search let them look at everyone not just a list happily provided to them. What annoys me about net privacy is that the focus is on a small set of terrorist or copyright infringer's. Very little is done against some of the more unsavoury child porn merchants or false advertising. Industry led laws only benefit small groups. As for terrorist if they are capable of training to be pilots and take over commercial planes and fly into buildings then this will only increase their costs rather than stop them.
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