Sad man with no other home but TVC :0)
I actually expect both Apple and Microsoft to work on compatibility because they are both considerably rich companies and it makes sense that certain products should be tested. However I can see how sometimes one company or another has an agenda or wishes not to spend money on something they personally will not profit from. It took years for Microsoft and Apple to agree to work together on some aspects even though the technology and software was available.
Sadly the consumer is not as important as they should be.
One of the reasons I do not upgrade from XP is because I really do not want to waste my time getting everything I use working again and I am happy how things are. Chances are the next time I upgrade will be the next time I buy a computer.
Just a warning about Lion... I was offered the free upgrade as my MBPro is brand new, but looking at the comments on the various apple blogs, people are extremely disappointed at teh bugs etc... which are still in it...
Originally Posted by marcy
Many people said that their mac's ended up slow and cumbersome!
I'd download the DMG, but it, and not install it until a few major updates come out...
Just a personal thought anyway...
Been okay for me so far, thought I know many people like to wait till the first .1 release
Originally Posted by toti
Sad man with no other home but TVC :0)
I had problems when I first upgraded, but I'm not sure if that was Lion or my RAM, which I switched the second time I installed Lion.
In the end I had to remove my MacBook's hard drive copy everything off it had become unusable, using my PC. Then install Snow Leopard (except I installed Leopard first by accident, it pays to read the disc before putting it in) Download Lion again, copy the install DMG to my USB drive, wipe my hard drive again and do a fresh install of Lion. And finally got it working, and now it's faster than ever. (although that might also be to do with the upgrade of RAM from 2GB to 8GB).
Basically do a fresh install of Lion if you can after backing up, and when you've installed only copy back from your backup as you need it. I've always had issues upgrading, Mac or PC.
I haven't run into many bugs, but I have run into quite a few places where I though why isn't that there. Eg being able to exit fullscreen Apps from Mission Control, close apps from Mission Control, reorganise spaces, drag windows between spaces without switching first. Pretty much Mission Control seems half finished.
Natural (reverse) scrolling takes getting used, but once you get used to it, you wonder why it wasn't like it to begin with.
Gestures are also a bit half finished, if you really want to use gestures you need to download BetterTouchTool, it lets you add custom gestures and it made my use of the computer a lot easier.
Also another minor thing is the LaunchPad open/close animations are counterintuitive to the gesture you use to open in it, e.g. you pinch with 3 fingers and your thumb, but the icons expand and come from the centre of the screen. It's minor but it makes the gesture harder to remember, and it's like Apple forgot to make it "Natural", as with all the other gestures, the content follows your fingers, except LaunchPad that is.
It's just small things that get noticed, because overall it's a good update
Last edited by Jonathan; 15-08-2011 at 10:51 AM.
I'm not happy with Lion in it's entirety.
First off the upgrade went seemingly well. After doing a disk verify, I them came across a few thousand permission errors. I think apple have failed badly here.
Secondly there are a myriad of unused cache, log and plist files which remain after the install.
Next, my memory usage (during idle) moved from 600MB to 1.8GB... Definitely not impressed at that.
I did however love the launchpad.... It seems although apple have decided that a touch-screen OSX based device is more attractive than originally planned. It would be interesting to see if and when they ever go ahead and make a more 'tablet' form of MacBook. I personally can't see this coming into play as the macbook's are nenowed for their rhobistness.
All in all I would rate Lion as the Apple's answer to Vista... Bleeding shame, but if the market is demanding it developers might as well upgrade to this gruelling and somewhat cumbersome OS.
Furthermore, in regards to development, Xcode 4.2 is terrible. Also of, what were handy features, have been removed and the whole interface has been revamped without an updated online migration guide. Also of the documentation online still relates directly to Xcode 3. THIS is extremely annoying and most of the time one has to resort to work arounds and fumbles to get something which was quite simple to work.
I am extremely interested as to how Find My Mac works as I know that the MBP itself hasn't got a GPS device in it, and the only 2 ways I can see it working is by geographical information relating to WiFi Hotspots, or IP address geographics. THe latter would be silly, as for example AOL (AO-Hell) users often get an IP which is registered to somewhere across the other end of the country. In the case of the former, exactly how much information does one have about our local hotspots?
It will be interesting to see what the up-coming major update releases for Lion will be. Or will Apple do a Microsoft on us and release OSX AlleyCat which should have been the original release of Lion which too works properly.
If you're running Snow and you want to upgrade to Lion I would advise:
1) Back up everything through TimeMachine / Time Capsule.
2) Take a full drive image to be on the safe side
3) Burn a Lion DVD
4) Do a FULL upgrade
5) Take yet another backup of everything
6) Take yet another drive image
7) Do a CLEAN install of Lion and restore your apps.
note on 7) Id personally not restore any of the system settings etc... as this appears to be one of the issues which is causing Lion to misbehave
if anyone has any tips on tuning lion, other than the cache cleaning, log scrapping and weekly/monthly maine script runs, that'd be much appreciated.
Furthermore, something else I've noticed which is interesting. If you notice that your memory is getting on the low side when it comes to lion. Open terminal and run 'purge'. You'd get back a good 1GB+... After this, I'd run a 'sync' to make sure all of the pending drive writes are finished.
I've noticed that makes quite a bit off difference to speed to so by default have created and automator for it.
Oh and job889, have a look here for the reverse scrolling revert: http://www.mactrast.com/2011/07/how-...snow-leopards/
that was another bugbear...