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    The Monaco Grand Prix
    Circuit de Monaco





    Circuit de Monaco, 24-27 May
    Thursday 24 May
    First practice: 0855-1035
    Second practice: 1255-1435
    Saturday 26 May
    Third practice: 0955-1105
    Qualifying: 1210-1430
    BBC One TVCatchup
    Sunday 27 May
    Race: 1205-1520 BBC One TVCatchup
    Highlights: 1900-2000 BBC Three
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    Current Standings


    Circuit information

    Number of laps : 78
    Length of the circuit
    : 3,34 km
    Total distance
    : 260,52 km
    2011 winner
    : Sebastian VETTEL (Red Bull Racing) 2h09'38''373
    Pole position 2011
    : Sebastian VETTEL (Red Bull Racing) 1'13''556
    Fastest lap 2011
    : Mark WEBBER (Red Bull Racing) 1'16''234

    The Monaco Grand Prix is the one race of the year that every driver dreams of winning. Like the Indy 500 or Le Mans, it stands alone, almost distinct from the sport from which it was born. A combination of precision driving, technical excellence and sheer bravery is required to win in Monte Carlo, facets which highlight the differences between the great and the good in Formula One.

    The Armco barrier-lined circuit leaves no margin for error, demanding more concentration that any other Formula One track. Cars run with maximum downforce and brakes are worked hard. Overtaking is next to impossible so qualifying in Monaco is more critical than at any other Grand Prix.


    The Portier corner is key to achieving a good lap time around Monaco. It is preceded by the Loews hairpin, the slowest corner in Formula One, and followed by the tunnel, one of the few flat-out sections of the track. Some great names have ended their races in the barriers here, most notably Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher.


    To win in Monaco places a driver's name on a list that includes many of history's all-time greats. Both Graham Hill, the man nicknamed 'Mr Monaco', and Schumacher have won it five times, Alain Prost took four victories, whilst Stirling Moss and Jackie Stewart each won here three times. But the record of wins in the Principality resides with the Senna, who won in Monte Carlo six times.


    The race has been a regular fixture of the world championship since 1955, but in that time the circuit has changed remarkably little. Slight alterations were made for the 2003 event, in particular a new, gentler entry to the Rascasse corner, with even bigger changes in 2004, with a new pit complex and increased spectator


    Top Performers at Circuit de Monaco

    Driver Wins
    Ayrton Senna 6
    Graham Hill 5
    Michael Schumacher 5
    Alain Prost 4
    Stirling Moss 3
    Jackie Stewart 3

    Constructor
    McLaren 15
    Ferrari 9
    Lotus 7
    British Racing Motors 5
    Bugatti 4

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    Circuit de Monaco


    On January 8 1297 Francois Grimaldi, an Italian buccaneer who robbed and pillaged his way along the rocky coast of what is now called the Riviera, disguised himself as a monk and snuck through the gates of the fortress of Monaco, perched on a dramatic rock, which dominated a pleasant rocky bay. He then opened the gates of the town for his pirate friends and they saw off the soldiers of the ruling family of Genoa who had previously been in control. Seven hundred years later, thanks to a couple of historical incidents, Monaco remains an independent sovereign state, the smallest in the world. It covers less than a square mile but is known throughout the world as the glamorous place where the wealthy and the famous like to live.
    Monaco is actually three villages which have grown into one: Monaco the rock - where the Grimaldi Castle sits; Monte Carlo, a village on the top of the cliff opposite; and La Condamine, a tiny port between the two.

    Long before His Serene Highness Prince Rainier III married Hollywood movie star Grace Kelly in 1956, Monte Carlo was world-renowned because of its casino - which was the most famous gambling establishment in the world. It was opened in 1863 and helped Monaco develop its glamorous reputation. The relaxed tax laws help to attract the billionaires but originally it was simply a place where the winters were mild and there were things to do in a beautiful setting.
    Nowadays there are so many rich and famous people who want to be based there that the grand old Monaco villas have disappeared beneath apartment blocks although one can still get an idea of what it must have been like in the old days if you visit the other little bays between Monaco and Nice. Under the towering corniches, with the sea blue to the horizon, they are dotted with bougainvillea-covered mansions and villas. A wonderful world.

    Monaco's glamorous image was helped enormously by the Noghes family, wealthy cigarette manufactures who were well-connected with the Grimaldis. In 1909 Alexandre Noghes became president of the Sport Automobile Velocipedique Monegasque - the local cycle and car club. He proposed the creation of a car rally which would start at points all over Europe and converge on the town. The first event was in January 1911 and 23 cars set out from 11 different locations and was won by Henri Rougier in a Turcat-Mery, the judging being done on a rather arbitrary nature, based on the elegance of the car, the state in which it was when it arrived and so on.

    There were cries of scandal when the results were published but it was, despite everything, a glamorous event. It was not until much later that it would develop into a proper race. In 1925 the SAVM changed its name to become the Automobile Club de Monaco. Three years later Alexandre Noghes's son Anthony suggested that Monaco hold a Grand Prix. The club had enjoyed some success organizing the Mont Agel hillclimb and Noghes felt that the next step was a Grand Prix. The idea received enthusiastic backing from Prince Louis II and in April 1929 the first Monaco Grand Prix took place. It was won by a mysterious Anglo-Frenchman called "Williams" in a privately-entered Bugatti Type 35B, painted in British racing green. In 1933 Achille Varzi and Tazio Nuvolari fought out one of their greatest duels on the streets and in 1934 the meteoric racing career of Algerian Frenchman Guy Moll reached its zenith with an unexpected victory for the young Ferrari driver.

    The Grand Prix stopped during the war years but on August 5 1945 - nine days before the Japanese surrender - the 36th American Infantry Division held a regularity trial in Monaco - using jeeps and GMC lorries.
    The racing revived in 1948 but the event struggled in the early 1950s - it was a sportscar event in 1952. But in 1955 it was back on the international calendar with a dramatic race which saw Alberto Ascari crash into the harbor and victory go to Maurice Trintignant. Monaco is a track where the driver plays a more important role than the car and so the race has tended to be won by the best: Ayrton Senna won six times between 1987 and 1993, Graham Hill earned the name "Mr. Monaco" with five wins in the 1960s. Alain Prost has won four times while Stirling Moss and Jackie Stewart took three victories apiece. Michael Schumacher won his fifth Monaco GP in 2001.

    From time to time Monaco throws up a surprise: in 1972 Jean-Pierre Beltoise was untouchable in the wet but he never again won a Grand Prix. A decade later Riccardo Patrese scored his first Grand Prix victory in a race that no-one seemed able to win: Prost crashed, Patrese spun, Didier Pironi and Andrea de Cesaris ran out of fuel and Derek Daly leaked oil. Patrese, however, recovered from his mistake and crossed the line, thinking he had lost the race but discovered that he was actually the winner.
    In 1996 Olivier Panis came through from the midfield in his Ligier to win a remarkable victory.
    Over the years there have been tragedies as well. Lorenzo Bandini crashed at the chicane in 1967 and was burned to death in a raging fire; and in 1994 young Austrian Karl Wendlinger crashed at the same spot, the resulting head injuries effectively ending his F1 career.

    Over the years the circuit has changed as Monaco has developed but the basic circuit remains as it was in 1929. In 1973 a new tunnel was built beneath the Loews Hotel and the track from Tabac to La Rascasse was reprofiled to make way for the new swimming pool. Later the Ste Devote and Rascasse Corners were tightened to slow the cars down and in 1986 the chicane was re-profiled for similar reasons.
    People have been forecasting disaster for years, but Monaco survives each passing year even if the safety and facilities are out of step with all the other F1 circuits.

    Monaco is more than a race. It is the most important Grand Prix of the year, the place where everyone wants to be. More deals are done at Monaco than at any other race and the glitter of the Principality rubs off on F1 as much as the glamour of F1 reflects on the city.
    "This place gives us more than we give it," admits F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone.

    In recent years pressure has grown for work to make it possible to build proper pits at Monaco and in 2002 Monaco revealed details of a long-term plan to create decent-sized pitlane and garages. This will necessitate the re-profiling of the Tabac, Swimming Pool and Rascasse sections.


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    Last Race
    Vettel won the start from pole and led Button to the first corner, with Alonso getting around a slow starting Webber for third. Hamilton started ninth in the position vacated by Pérez but made little progress on the opening lap. Vettel went 2.4 seconds ahead of Button by the end of the first lap. Schumacher's anti-stall kicked in at the start dropping him to tenth at first corner, but he retook ninth from Hamilton at Grand-Hotel hairpin. Vettel continued to build a strong lead but his pit stop on lap 16 was slow and he was fitted with hard compound tyres due to a radio communication error. Alonso briefly led then but when he pitted on Lap 17 Button went to the lead. He stayed there until Lap 33 when he pitted and Vettel once again resumed the lead.

    On lap 30 Glock's rear left suspension broke, so there were yellow flags for a brief period while they removed his car.
    Jenson Button finished a close third after the top three battled towards the end of the Grand Prix

    An incident between Hamilton and Massa caused Massa to crash in the tunnel, bringing out the first safety car. At the same time Schumacher's car suffered an airbox fire as he was about to pit, and he retired in the pit entrance forcing a safety car period while they cleared both cars. Vettel found himself leading behind the safety car and when racing resumed a battle between Vettel, Alonso and Button began. Vettel held the two former world champions behind him, despite being on tyres that had lasted since lap 16. As Button and Alonso fought for second place, the race looked set for an exciting climax, when an accident occurred involving Hamilton, Sutil, Alguersuari and Petrov. Sutil had hit the barrier on the previous corner, causing a right-rear puncture. Hamilton braked as Sutil lost control, and Alguersuari then ran into the back of Hamilton, damaging Hamilton's rear wing. Alguersuari hit the barrier, causing Petrov to do the same and both cars were out of the race, with Petrov being briefly trapped in his car. This brought out the safety car again and on lap 72 the race was red flagged, with the cars stopping on the grid at lap 72. During the red flag period, teams were allowed to change tyres and work on cars. This worked to the advantage of Vettel, Alonso, and Hamilton. Vettel and Alonso had heavily used tyres, while Hamilton most likely would not have been able to finish the race with the damaged rear wing that required almost the entire red flag period to repair.

    After Petrov was extracted from his car and the track cleared, the race resumed still behind the safety car, which went in at the end of lap 73. On lap 74 there was a brief yellow flag period due to an incident between Hamilton and Maldonado, ending Maldonado's race with a broken front suspension. Vettel took the chequered flag, extending his lead in the world championship to 58 points. Vettel was closely followed by Alonso in second, with Button taking the final podium spot.

    Hamilton had a difficult day, being penalised for causing two avoidable accidents, one involving Massa (for which he was given a drive-through penalty), and another with Maldonado for which he received a post-race 20 second penalty which did not affect his sixth placing. Hamilton criticised the stewards after the race, telling the BBC "Out of six races, I've been to the stewards five times. It's a joke, it's an absolute frickin' joke." He later apologised.

    Preview

    Pastor Maldonado surprised everybody last time out in Spain when he became the fifth driver in the first five races of the season to win a grand prix, and now pundits are asking whether this is the start of the resurgence of the Williams team ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday 27 May 2012. This was the Williams team’s first Formula One racing win since the Brazil Grand Prix in 2004, though it was marred by a fire in the Williams garage at the end of the race.
    The win also meant that not only has a different driver won every race so far but each race has also gone to a different team, with victories already notched up for Jenson Button in a McLaren, Fernando Alonso in a Ferrari, Nico Rosberg in a Mercedes and Sebastian Vettel in a Red Bull. Vettel still leads the drivers' championship but is level on points with Alonso, who finished second in Spain. The revival of the Lotus team also continued in Spain with their two drivers finishing third and fourth. The team could easily become the sixth team this year to have a driver on the top step of the podium.
    And after the surprise victory of Williams, seeing a Sauber, Force India or Toro Rosso at the front is now a possibility, especially after Sauber’s Sergio Perez’s strong race in Malaysia. As for Caterham, HRT and Marussia, their victory would be getting just one point and that seems unlikely to say the least.

    Monaco Grand Prix 2011 - Race Highlights






    Sebastian Vettel's 2011 Monaco pole position lap (1:13.556) as compared to Mark Webber's 2010 Monaco pole position lap (1:13.826).






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    With a track that has stayed mostly the same over the years it's nice to see Stirling Moss still up there holding records.

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    Practice One

    PosDriverTeamTime GapLaps
    1Fernando AlonsoFerrari1m16.265s  22
    2Romain GrosjeanLotus-Renault1m16.630s+0.36517
    3Sergio PerezSauber-Ferrari1m16.711s+0.44619
    4Lewis HamiltonMcLaren-Mercedes1m16.747s+0.48212
    5Pastor MaldonadoWilliams-Renault1m16.760s+0.49520
    6Felipe MassaFerrari1m16.843s+0.57819
    7Kamui KobayashiSauber-Ferrari1m17.038s+0.77321
    8Jenson ButtonMcLaren-Mercedes1m17.190s+0.92513
    9Sebastian VettelRed Bull-Renault1m17.222s+0.95714
    10Nico RosbergMercedes1m17.261s+0.99618
    11Michael SchumacherMercedes1m17.413s+1.14814
    12Nico HulkenbergForce India-Mercedes1m17.631s+1.36618
    13Mark WebberRed Bull-Renault1m18.106s+1.84114
    14Jean-Eric VergneToro Rosso-Ferrari1m18.209s+1.94425
    15Daniel RicciardoToro Rosso-Ferrari1m18.252s+1.98728
    16Paul di RestaForce India-Mercedes1m18.302s+2.03716
    17Bruno SennaWilliams-Renault1m18.617s+2.35220
    18Heikki KovalainenCaterham-Renault1m19.03$s+2.77420
    19Vitaly PetrovCaterham-Renault1m19.341s+3.07616
    20Narain KarthikeyanHRT-Cosworth1m20.838s+4.57326
    21Charles PicMarussia-Cosworth1m20.895s+4.6318
    22Timo GlockMarussia-Cosworth1m21.638s+5.3739
    23Pedro de la RosaHRT-Cosworth1m22.423s+6.15815
    24Kimi RaikkonenLotus-Renault   1
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    Here comes the rain!

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    Yep, mad rush for times and all gone quiet now - was looking good for me at one point with Alonso, Hamilton and Schumacher all in the top four, but didn't last that long lol
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    Practice Two

    PosDriverTeamTime GapLaps
    1Jenson ButtonMcLaren-Mercedes1m15.746  14
    2Romain GrosjeanLotus-Renault1m16.138s+0.39217
    3Felipe MassaFerrari1m16.602s+0.85619
    4Fernando AlonsoFerrari1m16.661s+0.91521
    5Pastor MaldonadoWilliams-Renault1m16.820s+1.07418
    6Nico RosbergMercedes1m17.021s+1.27513
    7Mark WebberRed Bull-Renault1m17.148s+1.40221
    8Kamui KobayashiSauber-Ferrari1m17.153s+1.40720
    9Michael SchumacherMercedes1m17.293s+1.5479
    10Sebastian VettelRed Bull-Renault1m17.303s+1.55719
    11Lewis HamiltonMcLaren-Mercedes1m17.375s+1.62917
    12Paul di RestaForce India-Mercedes1m17.395s+1.64919
    13Bruno SennaWilliams-Renault1m17.655s+1.90918
    14Nico HulkenbergForce India-Mercedes1m17.800s+2.05423
    15Sergio PerezSauber-Ferrari1m18.251s+2.50522
    16Vitaly PetrovCaterham-Renault1m18.440s+2.69423
    17Jean-Eric VergneToro Rosso-Ferrari1m18.522s+2.77620
    18Daniel RicciardoToro Rosso-Ferrari1m18.808s+3.06224
    19Kimi RaikkonenLotus-Renault1m19.267s+3.52123
    20Timo GlockMarussia-Cosworth1m19.309s+3.56327
    21Heikki KovalainenCaterham-Renault1m20.029s+4.28313
    22Charles PicMarussia-Cosworth1m20.240s+4.49419
    23Pedro de la RosaHRT-Cosworth1m20.631s+4.88512
    24Narain KarthikeyanHRT-Cosworth1m20.886s+5.1410
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    Not great news ahead of arguably the best grand prix on the calendar - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...aco-grand-prix

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart08 View Post
    Not great news ahead of arguably the best grand prix on the calendar - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...aco-grand-prix
    Seems like an annual event now as there was one last year as well, and on a personal note I would say Spa Francorchamps is the best Grand Prix on the calender, amazingly spectacular track
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    Yeah, shards of white plastic... terrible stuff

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    For goodness sake, Maldo!! That car better be fixable for quali!

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